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Great chat. It is amazing to me that within education we are falling into the fallacy of Equivocation again and again. The point of education in my view, is to make the new generations aware of the wealth of our cultural heritage. Knowledge needs to be transmitted so past mistakes can be avoided. Is it that difficult?

Superbly produced about a superb subject. I will listen to this over and over. I loved the statement about "It's not just about learning, but becoming." (He said it more elegantly, but it caught my attention.) It reminded me of Jo's fear when Laury set off to college. She understood that he would not come back the same.

I feel I must state my unwanted and disagreeable opinion that MP does children a disservice by being so closed minded about books. I’ve gotten attacked in the Facebook group before for bringing this up. But most homeschoolers, especially those using more literary approaches, know who Elizabeth Yates is. Her books are used in several curriculums. I’ve only read two, but they were very good and had a lot more going for them than the likes of The Moffats and Farmer Boy.

Hi, I was wondering where the episode for k-2nd grade? You referenced one but I can’t find it. Thanks!

I loved Martin's comments on reading and thinking/writing. I just found a great book on this subject. It is called "First We Read Then We Write: Emerson on the Creative Process" by Robert D. Richardson.

Love this!

I did some house cleaning while listening to this video. Otherwise, I was going to fall asleep. Not because it was boring but I had just woken up and needed to get my blood pumping, so thanks!

@MemoriaPress Can you please post links to the articles referenced re: what to think? Great topic and really a good way to articulate the utter inversion of classical vs modern education

Hello, I am curious why reading the King James Bible was emphasized in this discussion. I personally hold to the Traditional Text position of Scripture and am wondering why it was promoted here. I am new to classical education.

I love that Memoria Press emphasizes that they produce a Latin=based curriculum, which secondarily includes ancient Greek.

On your book list for boys you are missing Ralph Moody's name with his Little Britches series. We love those books!

Love MP. Thank you all for all you do.

But doesn't a focus on knowledge content require BOTH 'what to think' and 'how to think'? Isn't the move away from 'what to think' an implicit rejection of Christian education (ie. here is what the Bible says = 'what to think' whereas progressive education wants students to 'find their own way' and determine what they think is right without that Christian ideological perspective)?

I would love an article on this topic. It would help better understand the argument because this conversation was a bit overshadowed by the impression of and circling back to wanting to prove “I was right and you were wrong.” I don’t believe that was the intention but I am left a little confused on the actual topic.

This was helpful, thank you

Has there ever been an episode comparing the Memoria classical approach to the Charlotte Mason approach of living books with less structure etc? Is that too controversial? :)

Big Ethics ⚖️ Little Ethics -Martin Cothran

If I may suggest a title for the article needed: Stop Being Afraid of Indoctrination. Because let's face "you're indoctrinating" is just a progressive education boogeyman, like when political people call you a (fill in the blank)ist if you disagree with them.

Just want to say how much I love this curriculum for my 2nd grader. He’s learning so much- within a few weeks I’ve gone from, “well, I guess I just need to keep him out of prison and get him a decent blue collar job” to “my kid is a genius! We need to buy a piano!” I’m kidding, but not really. He’s adopted and has pretty extreme adhd. School system chewed him up ruthlessly. Now he’s on the farm with me, thriving- learning art- reading on his own- learning Latin- and most importantly: work ethic. Thank you for guiding us every step of the way and providing such incredible structure.

I'm a big fan of the channel, but I think you should know that the audio and the video are out of sync in this particular video. Thank you for all of the insightful content!

Awesome conversation about justice and mercy. Thank u for this. I love C.S. Lewis.

Who is the author of the Chosen book you will be reading?

For what it’s worth, I loved the episode but didn’t need the follow-up because there’s no way that Martin ever said “HLS teaches not what to think but how to think”. It’s a progressive bumper sticker slogan more than it is a pedagogical philosophy.

You can't teach how to think without first teaching loads of content. I think that these things go hand in hand.

I will be leading my 5th grader through First Form Latin this Fall.

“Climbing Parnassus”, eh? - I do it every day, but that’s because I’m a shepherd from a village near Delphi. 🏛🌿🇬🇷

Judging from his life and polity, I’m fully convinced that Donald Trump has read this book, and adheres to its precepts (he’s read “many books” - more books than anyone).

27:01 THE WORD IS ITIS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Wow, such a great episode. Just when I start to doubt if classical education is the way I want to go with our homeschool, you all come swooping in with these great conversations and give me much confidence. Thank you!

Thank you for this discussion. I am an algebra 1 teacher at a classical charter school in Texas. I will encourage colleagues and liberal art teacher friends to watch this enlightening and compelling episode.

What caused that? Its not power its a trick The others thought him weak too simple to notice They sound like kids fighting They tried to use Jesus the story is a tale to entertain tourists

I am not sure if my comment went through but I am concerned that classical education may not reach or help assist a student who may have difficulty with memorization and learning difficulties that dyslexia adds to. Please enlighten me if My concerns are not warranted.

So I feel that this curriculum does not assist students with learning disabilities

HLS teaches students HOW to think and WHAT to do.

Great video! Did Julius Caesar not offer that both Pompey and himself disband their armies and retire? Yet Pompey did refuse and a battle ensued. As Julius Caesar did cross the Rubicon?

Wall calendars for life! 🙌 Digital schedules are like reading on an iPad. 🤢 Paper & pencil calendar is the classical calendar. 👌 I love my Memoria Press calendar! Thank you for the free gift.

Kate Birbalsingh is talking about something more than just using content to practice skills on. She is talking about indoctrinating kids with British culture. And like me, she's ok with it. There is no education without indoctrination and it's a fool who thinks that there is. Once you accept that you can't help indoctrinating, then you just have to get deliberate about choosing the doctrine. She chooses British culture. I choose Catholicism. Everyone chooses something, even if by default.

Robin Hood is not breaking a commandment. Taking back what was stolen is police work, not theft. If Robin Hood is stealing, than so is every cop who confiscates stolen property (which they do, even when they don't yet know who it belongs to).

Martin is correct that classical educators should not be using the "how to think, not what to think" slogan. This is a progressive slogan meant to deride the teaching of factual knowledge and the use of "rote learning." Birbalsingh is objecting to the progressives not to classical/traditional educators. Perhaps a better way for classical educators to think of this idea is "We teach knowledge so that students learn how to think in order that they not be deceived into thinking the thoughts that the world wants them to think."

that's great videos. thanks

This is another great conversation. I look forward to these every week.

Hoopla has How to Think Like Shakespeare on audiobook fyi.

I have been working through your curriculum in advance of educating my son (including high school material). Memoria Press has provided a good deal of facts and a look at humanity through books. With the facts and stories in your curriculum , I can understand how my son will be taught how to rightly consider everything he consumes in order to form his own thoughts on the world, the people in it and the issues of his day. You are 100 percent not forcing opinions on students in order to force them to think a certain way.

I have to say those calendars are great for primary Calendar time. My daughters love filling in the Calendar time work on the Memoria calendar after reciting or telling them The poems add extra flavor.

Are you referring to Kate Birbalsingh's interview with Jordan Peterson?

Are you referring to Kate Birbalsingh's interview with Jordan Peterson?

Hurray it's the core 4!!!

What do you do or start with this when you kids are already in high school and they have never done anything like this before? Where would they start?

This was a good discussion. I think the difference in the emphasis between Shane and then Martin and Andrew was the difference between a younger father and a seasoned grandfather. They were all correct, but the gravitas of the older men shows.

Captain Blood is a good example of Sabatini’s Good Pirate. I love Scaramouche as well.I would like you to discuss ( amongst yourselves) the “Character“ of Edgar Rice Burroughs Heroes. I grew up having them read to me and I have continually re-read them over time, I am now 75. The attributes of the John Carter are so outstanding, that when we get older we realize he is The Ideal Hero. ERB’s characterization of Women(placing them on a pedestal), the love of a friend due to similarities of worldview, is crystal clear even to children.